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	<title>Comments on: What Are We Becoming?</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://mark.orbum.net/2005/01/19/what-are-we-becoming/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah - this analogy was interesting. But the 14 points aren&#039;t really
something that&#039;s over-the-top.

They all make sense and are likely very good touchstones for examining a
country to see level of fascism.

I don&#039;t know if you took exception to the points themselves, or the use
of the word fascism.

To look at these points does not &quot;castrate the severity&quot; of the issue,
nor does it obfuscate the &quot;real thing&quot; - whatever that might be.

Most people here do not realize what this &quot;real thing&quot; is. Any method
whatsoever that can educate people in a humane and open way I think is
good.

Remember, we&#039;re dealing with a lot of propaganda.

When there exists thick veils of propaganda - something has to slice
through it - I think his points are most excellent in that regard.

I don&#039;t know what you mean by the &quot;real thing&quot;. The &quot;real thing&quot; for
most people is defined by this propaganda or, perhaps better said,
selective informational focuses.

Funny, that U2 song &quot;Even Better Than the Real Thing&quot; comes to mind.

Sometimes when dealing with propaganda, the severity of issues must be
overemphasized just to get people thinking in a different way. I don&#039;t
believe that&#039;s to the detriment of the issues if their eyes start
turning at least to a place where they might start seeing some of the
&quot;real things&quot;.

Remember, we Americans when taken as a whole don&#039;t rank up at the top in
education... ;)

For me, these points were a very well-organized collection of thoughts
and examples of what we should look at to better understand our current
situation and direction.

Of course, the word &quot;fascism&quot; has lost its pointedness - it&#039;s primitive
and borders on the ridiculous in our Western world. Then again, that
makes it a little dangerous, like you said.

This is a bizarre time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8211; this analogy was interesting. But the 14 points aren&#8217;t really<br />
something that&#8217;s over-the-top.</p>
<p>They all make sense and are likely very good touchstones for examining a<br />
country to see level of fascism.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you took exception to the points themselves, or the use<br />
of the word fascism.</p>
<p>To look at these points does not &#8220;castrate the severity&#8221; of the issue,<br />
nor does it obfuscate the &#8220;real thing&#8221; &#8211; whatever that might be.</p>
<p>Most people here do not realize what this &#8220;real thing&#8221; is. Any method<br />
whatsoever that can educate people in a humane and open way I think is<br />
good.</p>
<p>Remember, we&#8217;re dealing with a lot of propaganda.</p>
<p>When there exists thick veils of propaganda &#8211; something has to slice<br />
through it &#8211; I think his points are most excellent in that regard.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you mean by the &#8220;real thing&#8221;. The &#8220;real thing&#8221; for<br />
most people is defined by this propaganda or, perhaps better said,<br />
selective informational focuses.</p>
<p>Funny, that U2 song &#8220;Even Better Than the Real Thing&#8221; comes to mind.</p>
<p>Sometimes when dealing with propaganda, the severity of issues must be<br />
overemphasized just to get people thinking in a different way. I don&#8217;t<br />
believe that&#8217;s to the detriment of the issues if their eyes start<br />
turning at least to a place where they might start seeing some of the<br />
&#8220;real things&#8221;.</p>
<p>Remember, we Americans when taken as a whole don&#8217;t rank up at the top in<br />
education&#8230; <img src='http://mark.orbum.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For me, these points were a very well-organized collection of thoughts<br />
and examples of what we should look at to better understand our current<br />
situation and direction.</p>
<p>Of course, the word &#8220;fascism&#8221; has lost its pointedness &#8211; it&#8217;s primitive<br />
and borders on the ridiculous in our Western world. Then again, that<br />
makes it a little dangerous, like you said.</p>
<p>This is a bizarre time.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://mark.orbum.net/2005/01/19/what-are-we-becoming/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>imho...
Like women who describe perceived casual verbal put-downs as &quot;rape&quot;, 
over-excitable use of the word only succeeds in castrating the severity of
the real thing which no-one any longer takes seriously. To the detriment
of those who suffer at the hands of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imho&#8230;<br />
Like women who describe perceived casual verbal put-downs as &#8220;rape&#8221;,<br />
over-excitable use of the word only succeeds in castrating the severity of<br />
the real thing which no-one any longer takes seriously. To the detriment<br />
of those who suffer at the hands of it.</p>
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